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Question Posed – I’m an Aussie scientist and I’ve never encountered anything like all the stuff that comes from American Christian Fundamentalists on this site. So this is a question for you if you are one – do you really think geology / paleontology / biology / physics is one big con? If so, why? And how could it possibly be done? I guess I mean what is your understanding of how science is done?
It’s an honest question and I’m mainly interested in the perspective of Christian Fundamentalists.
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No. It is not a con, any observable science, we wholly agree with. I enjoy learning more of geology and physics specifically. The big issue is the presuppositions of some scientists to view data through the lenses of evolution and in many cases may wedge the results into what is expected. The creationist does the same thing, except our presupposition is based on the Bible as a true historical document of creation. The same facts will support both evolution and creation depending on how they are viewed.
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No ! I have multiple degrees some in science…
It is evolution theory which has been falsified as fact that everyne is rejecting .
To quote Einstein,
“The search for truth is more precious than its possession.”
It is unfortunate, in my humble opinion, that fundamentalists of all stripes firmly believe they own and possess the truth. Consequently, “geology / paleontology / biology / physics” IS one big con to them. The have and own the truth in their eyes. They need nothing more. And to throw the ball back into your court, again from Einstein,
“Science without religion is lame; religion without science is blind.”
I respect Einstein for saying this because in one simple statement he has defined the problem in both pursuits. With that in mind, is there any room for mystery or the study of parapsychology and its application in your scientific pursuits?
I have not ran into a single christian who thinks science is a con. I love Science and it is mandatory to help people! If you are in someway you are referring to our generally accepted belief that we were not made for space dust, big bang I agree. I do not believe even slightly that the complex creature were are formed from rocks and germs. Maybe I am not a fundamentalist. I dont know exactly what you mean by that, All I know is what I believe. God Bless!!!
Wait, where did it ever say that God created all of the planet? It only says in the Bible he created one…Earth.
I think Christains just believe what they are told and stick with just that–they are stubborn and won’t see the other views of life. Shouldn’t they be open to all thoughts and ideas? Isn’t that what “God” wants? If not, then “God” is a selfish prick.
Actually, to add to this…I like what the guy below me said! Well put, it is very difficult to debate it or any other highly opinionated topic on here. Also, about the whole con thing. Good point.
The persecution complex they have makes them think that everyone who does not agree with them is conspiring against them.
Think George Bush’s “you’re with us, or against us” speech.
Of course not. True science fits very well with Christianity. In fact, most of the scientific disciplines were started by Christians. What we have a problem with is the evolution hoax. Those scientists who start from an evolutionary presupposition and then try to twist and fit the evidence into their belief system are intellectually dishonest. We say, lay out the evidence in an open, unprejudiced manner, and lets see which way the balance tips. Of course, we couldn’t have that because these scientists know it would tip heavily on the creation side.
And we really resent this notion that all Christians are uneducated boobs who can’t read past the third grade level. We are highly educated people who haven’t ingested the evolution kool-aid. We know very well how theories are proven using scientific methodology and that evolution fails this testing. We know it is a belief system, a world view, a religion. I can provide a long list of scientists from different scientific realms, many with PH D’s, who believe in creation. Those who think that Christians are misinformed idiots are only revealing their ignorance and arrogance.
As a scientist, you should be aware that more and more evidence is being discovered every day that supports the teachings of the Bible. Read up, my friend!. science is studying, The truth is there. Can you prove God doesn’t exist with science. No!.
yeah if you ask them the right questions, that they dont have an aswer to all they say is “FAITH”, which i think is all B.S
No i don’t think so but I think the slow change from viewing ideas as theories and instead applying them as fact is what a lot of Christan’s are concerned about. If you asked most American educated children they would tell you Darwins theory was a fact, the education system allows this and Christians get upset.
im Methodist …God created the planets and gravity
Arent all Christian viewpoints of value?? what is your purpose?
I think they are ignorant or they simply misunderstand some scientific concepts.
Dude, you already know the answer to that. Fundamentalists are some of the nuttiest, dumbest chordates that have ever lived since the Cambrian explosion.
For them, science is a big conspiracy. Geology, paleontology, physics, they are all the work of the Devil. Fortunately, such thinking is confined (mostly) within the US.
I’ve never seen such rampant retardation anywhere else.
Faith is all that is needed. Since facts can intrude on faith, facts are EVIL.
Please tell me you don’t have crazy people similar to American Christian Fundamentalists in Australia? I’m thinking of moving to your country because Australia looks beautiful, and I want to get away from these people before they take out freedoms away.
As a minister, preacher and pastor and as a person I do not believe that science is a con. There are con men in the field of science just like there are conmen in the field of religion. No filed of study is imune to slight-of-hand. This site is not the best forum for debate because of the difficulty in communicating back and forth—I prefer to debate face to face with agreed to rules.
This is a quote from a scientist ” many scientists are willing to accept scientific claims that are against common sense because we have a prior commitment, a commitment to materialism. Many scientists refuse even to consider the possibly of an intelligent designer because we cannot allow a divine foot in the door”.
My own experience is that some in the scientific community seem to be trying to change the definitions of proof and theory.
Fundies don’t do much in the way of THINKING, period….
It’s all about BELIEF, remember?